Biopic: A Podcast Story

In a world where mimicking the gestures of a historical figure is awards bait, Biopic: A Podcast Story examines the good, the bad, the unspeakable, and the hilarious about this category of film that frequently dominates the Oscars but just as often offends our sensibilities. Biopic: A Podcast Story looks at the casting, the acting, the quality of the script, and the endless tropes that dominate these movies. Hosted by Rena and Sara. We have watched a lot of biopics. Biopic: A Podcast Story sits at the meeting point between movie, comedy, and history podcasts. New episodes drop every Tuesday.

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Episode Scores

We score episode on a scale of one to ten based on ten categories:

  • Outward Appearances (Makeup/Hair )
  • Acting/Casting (Do they capture the spirit of the people they are playing? Beyond that, is the acting good?
  • Passage of Time
  • Costuming
  • Quality of the script
  • Accuracy
  • Storytelling (was it clichéd/was it interesting/was it inventive?)
  • Production value
  • Production/Direction decision making 
  • Do we care?

We rate each category on the one to ten scale, then divide by ten to reach the final score. You can learn more about the scoring system and about Biopic: A Podcast Story in general by listening to our very special introductory episode, "Introduction: Who Are We and What Are We Doing?"

 

To see how past episodes have fared in the ratings, please check out our comprehensive ratings page.

Episodes

Tuesday Mar 04, 2025

Happy birthday to Rena and Roger Daltrey! We’re delighted to be joined by the brilliant Elana Levin from the Graphic Policy podcast (https://graphicpolicy.com/radio/, on Bluesky @Levin) for the completely bananas, wildly original Lisztomania, Ken Russell’s 1970s musical biopic on the first rock star, Franz Lizst. 
In this super-sized episode, we’re talking about birthday boy Roger Daltrey, a Roger Daltrey voodoo doll, phallus-laden musical numbers, Ringo Starr as the pope, neglected children, a room filled with butt sconces, a gold-dipped Frankenstein, a Richard Wagner-Hitler-vampire hybrid, a gorgeous score by prog rock el divo Rick Wakeman, and the most beautifully literal Deus Ex Machina in the history of the world. And that’s only scratching the surface.
Naturally, there are corpse capers, because why wouldn’t there be? 
Buckle up: You haven’t seen one like this before. 
Lisztomania is directed by Ken Russell and scored by Rick Wakeman, and stars Roger Daltrey as Franz Liszt, Paul Nicholas as Richard Wagner, Sara Kestelman as Princess Carolyn, Ringo Starr as the Pope, Veronica Quilligan as Cosima, Fiona Lewis as Marie, and Nell Campbell as Olga Janina. 
Sources: 
Franz Liszt: Musician, Celebrity, Superstar, by Oliver Hilmes.
Being Wagner: The Story of the Most Provocative Composer Who Ever Lived, by Simon Callow.
The Biographers podcast six episode series on Franz Liszt.
 
Find Elana here: https://graphicpolicy.com/radio/ 
Spoiler Warning: We spoil everything. And we enjoy it.
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Tuesday Feb 25, 2025

We buckle up for the inspiring but also totally depressing story of Shirley Chisolm, the fearless Brooklynite who became the first major-party female candidate for President. Shirley is inspiring because she has class, style, incredible smarts, and is a preternaturally gifted politician. Shirley totally bummed us out because [gestures around at the trash-fire trainwreck that is 2025, and Americans’ racism and misogyny and how they got us to said trash-fire trainwreck]. Outside of the lamentable place in time in which we exist, we are nevertheless inspired by Shirley Chisholm, the trails she blazed, and the spaces she made at the table for the women who followed.
Other topics of discussion: The halcyon days of Richard Nixon’s genteel corruption, John Ridley and Regina King’s casual brilliance, how Shirley Chisholm used her powers to change George Wallace, and how men will always protect each other from a woman leader.
We introduce two new segments, “Greenbook Greenlight,” and “Sara Managed to Wedge in Jonestown, Somehow.”
 
References: 
Slate.com
Smithsonian Magazine Unbought and Unbossed, by Shirley Chisholm
Unbought and Unbossed, the documentary about Shirley Chisholm
“227” Theme Song 
 
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Tuesday Feb 18, 2025

Responsible for this podcast’s existence and our term “Eazy-E Crying,” Straight Outta Compton is a straight-up delight — a biopic about the seminal rap group NWA whose excellence defies “and-then-i-ness,” that gets inside the joy of the creative process and manages to do non-cloying fan service. While the film is not without flaws (glossing over some pretty intense misogyny and some pretty serious abuse allegations), it’s pretty great. 
Between unpacking a set of star-making performances and outstanding direction, we discuss whether an under-the-influence-of-Ambien Tipper Gore is writing all of the film’s negative reviews on IMDB, why you should never start a rap beef with Ice Cube, how neither of us know anything about the strength of street knowledge, whether Paul Giamatti is playing history’s greatest monster, and Sara’s fear of pool parties.  
Straight Outta Compton is directed by F. Gary Gray and stars O’Shea Jackson as Ice Cube, Corey Hawkins as Dr. Dre, Jason Mitchell as Eazy-E, Neil Brown Jr. as DJ Yella, Aldis Hodge as MC Ren, Marlon Yates as D.O.C., R. Marcus Taylor as Suge Knight, and Paul Giamatti as Jerry Heller. 
Spoiler Warning: We spoil everything. And we enjoy it.
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Tuesday Feb 11, 2025

Description: Black History Month continues, and numerical kismet isn’t the only thing we love this week: We LOVE 42, the 2013 biopic about Jackie Robinson’s first year as the first Black Major League Baseball player. The late, great Chadwick Boseman is, of course, brilliant, but so is Harrison Ford as sportsball manager Branch Rickey, a man committed to desegregating MLB. Which, spoiler alert, is what happens as Jackie Robinson joins the Brooklyn Dodgers and changes the game forever.
There are roadblocks, mainly a number of white men whose use of the n-word is, shall we say, Quentin Tarantino film-level liberal in this movie. We also discover Chris Meloni is too sexy for the managerial work of pro baseball, Alan Tudyk sure can let the evil fly when he feels like it, and Hamish Linklater is a dreamboat as the legendary ballplayer and product-of-prolific-parents Ralph Branca. 
And sad warning: We know nothing about baseball. 
ALSO ALSO: We’ve got promo codes for Academy Award® Nominee for Best Original Screenplay, SEPTEMBER 5 is now on Digital. Based on true events at the 1972 Olympics and the hostage crisis that changed media coverage forever. Starring Peter Sarsgaard, John Magaro, Ben Chaplin, and Leonie Benesch. BUY OR RENT SEPTEMBER 5 on Fandango at Home NOW! Rated PG. From Paramount Pictures. HIT US UP for a promo code (while supplies last) to watch the movie at home for free, at any of our places below. 
 
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Tuesday Feb 04, 2025

It’s our first episode in Black History Month, and we’re starting with a bang – the story of one Harriet Tubman. Ms. Tubman is among the historical figures whose life most closely resembles that of a Marvel hero, so her moment was long overdue. But if you have to wait, at least you get the superlative talents, brilliance, and star power of one Cynthia Erivo playing Harriet. 
While witnessing the unfathomable courage of Harriet Tubman, we consider issues like: how long should you wait to get remarried after your wife is presumed dead? Why are you here, Joe Alwyn? What’s the right color coat to wear when you are rescuing your entire family? Can we build an entire movie around the image of Janelle Monae teaching Cynthia Erivo to aim a pistol? 
We have a lot of uncomfortable questions with easy answers since we are living through the trash fire of the year of our Lord 2025: Why did it take so long for Harriet Tubman to get the proper big screen treatment? Why isn’t she on our $20 bills yet? Why isn’t anyone in the Clarke Peters business? 
ALSO ALSO: We’ve got promo codes for Academy Award® Nominee for Best Original Screenplay, SEPTEMBER 5 is now on Digital. Based on true events at the 1972 Olympics and the hostage crisis that changed media coverage forever. Starring Peter Sarsgaard, John Magaro, Ben Chaplin, and Leonie Benesch. BUY OR RENT SEPTEMBER 5 on Fandango at Home NOW! Rated PG. From Paramount Pictures. HIT US UP for a promo code (while supplies last) to watch the movie at home for free, at any of our places below. 
Spoiler Warning: We spoil everything. And we enjoy it.
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Tuesday Jan 28, 2025

How DOES it feel to be a total genius? It’s a burden for our dear friend Bob Dylan. A Complete Unknown is a big hit and is nominated for a billionty-five Academy Awards, so we went to the theaters to experience what might be the most sincere, prestige-y portrait of a ridiculously talented douchebag in the history of filmmaking.
Sara and Rena mostly love this, because of America’s high school English teacher Pete Seeger and his sincere embrace of the composting toilet, the brilliant, no-nonsense Joan Baez, the music, and the sensible but elegant direction and writing. However, its Fail/Safe-level “Will he or won’t he go electric at the Newport Folk Festival” tension does elicit some mockery.
Also discussed: How many decades, exactly, have we been in this emotionally abusive relationship with the original negging pickup artist Bob Dylan? Who are the baby boomers and why hasn’t the media done a better job documenting their fascinating history? Could there be a more labored and nonsensical metaphor for Pete Seeger than his “buckets and seesaw” speech? Why doesn’t Toshi Seeger have her own movie? Was calling Bob Dylan “Judas” for plugging in his guitar an under-reaction?
 
Spoiler Warning: We spoil everything. And we enjoy it.
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Tuesday Jan 21, 2025

In honor of Sara’s natal day, we attempt to deconstruct her weird obsession with character actors as we enjoy this delightful film about the blacklist and one of its central heroes, Dalton Trumbo. Absent from the film are twin douchenozzles Joe McCarthy and Roy Cohn, but present are douchenozzles like real-life blacklisting masturbator Louis CK and a bowdlerized version of nightmare gossip hack Louella Parsons (she was even worse IRL!). 
Do we wrongly credit Kirk Douglas for breaking the blacklist when it should be Frank and Hymie King (ne Kozinsky) of The King Brothers Productions? Is John Wayne the worst? Is there anything more appealing than seeing a functional addict and workaholic have his Christmas ruined by Otto Preminger? Have fun with this far-too-timely movie about moral relativism and choosing between ideals and functioning in society! Happy January 2025, everyone! 
Trumbo was directed by Jay Roach and written by John McNamara and Bruce Cook, and stars Bryan Cranston as Dalton Trumbo, Diane Lane as Cleo Trumbo, Helen Mirren as Hedda Hopper, Michael Stuhlbarg as Edward G. Robinson, David James Elliott as John Wayne, Alan Tudyk as Ian McLellan Hunter, Roger Bart as Buddy Ross, Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje as Virgil Brooks, Elle Fanning as Niki Trumbo, John Goodman as Frank King, and Stephen Root as Hymie King.  
Sources: 
Hedda Hopper’s Hollywood: Celebrity Gossip and American Conservatism by Jennifer Frost
Trumbo by Bruce Cook
Blacklisted: Hollywood, the Cold War, and the First Amendment by Larry Dane Brimner
You Must Remember This podcast, season 6, episodes about the blacklist
Behind the Bastards, series on John Wayne 
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Tuesday Jan 14, 2025

How gorgeous is Sofia Coppola’s delicious, vibes-filled Marie Antoinette? So gorgeous that we brought on a special guest, Belle, the host of Silhouettes: The Fashion History Podcast, to discuss.
In addition to Belle’s deep expertise around the era, we discuss Kirsten Dunst’s perfection, the meta-level brilliance of Sofia’s cast (who better to play Louis XV than Rip Torn, a madcap actor with a secret family?), how Marie Antoinette created cottage-core, wigs, and the nightmarish ennui of the mid-aughts. Also, what is the appropriate way to correct the reproductive techniques of a king? 
Marie Antoinette was written and directed by Sofia Coppola, and stars Kirsten Dunst as Marie Antoinette, Jason Schwartzman as Louis XVI, Rip Torn as Louis XV, Steve Coogan as Ambassador Mercy, Judy Davis as Comtesse de Noailles, Asia Argento as Comtesse du Barry, Rose Byrne as Duchesse de Polignac, Marianne Faithfull as Empress Maria Theresa, Jamie Dornan as Count Axel Fersen, and a blink-and-you-miss-him baby Tom Hardy, who already exudes star power.
 
Sources: 
Silhouettes: A Fashion History Podcast: https://linktr.ee/silhouettespodcast?utm_source=linktree_profile_share&ltsid=5495ec93-ea02-430a-b1d1-c54895893449 
Marie Antoinette: The Journey by Antonia Fraser.
Marie-Therese, Child of Terror by Susan Nagel.
Marie Antoinette's Head: The Royal Hairdresser, the Queen, and the Revolution by Will Bashor.
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About us

Rena and Sara are two media/entertainment world professionals living in NYC. Rena is the history person, mostly.* Sara is the film person. Rena has no business doing a movie podcast without Sara. Sara has no business doing a history podcast without Rena.

Sara is a publicist with experience in the retail, real estate, lifestyle, finance, technology, publishing, e-commerce, nonprofit, and entertainment sectors. Rena is a journalist/web producer and has worked for media outlets including BillboardFood & WineTravel + Leisure, MSN.com, and WWD as well as consulting at companies including Sotheby's, Time Inc., Disney, and Princeton University Press.

Rena and Sara have been friends for over 20 years. We know each other because our moms attended Ithaca College together.

Sara is the blonde. Rena is the brunette.

*Sara takes care of the 20th and 21st centuries. Rena takes care of all the other centuries.

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Biopic: A Podcast Story

In a world where mimicking the gestures of a historical figure is awards bait, Biopic: A Podcast Story examines the good, the bad, the unspeakable, and the hilarious about this category of film that frequently dominates the Oscars but just as often offends our sensibilities. Biopic: A Podcast Story looks at the casting, the acting, the quality of the script, and the endless tropes that dominate these movies. Hosted by Rena and Sara. To learn more about us, our rating system, and how we choose movies, please listen to our special introductory episode, "Introduction: Who Are We and What Are We Doing?"

 

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